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Re: David scanned by David - work in progress

Posted: 25 Aug 2017, 12:38
by Curiousjeff
@ 3DXSCAN,

I can't do that right now. But I will it give it a try when possible.

I would do it with a 30 cm calibration pane and not a 1 m one.

Is that what you are interested in ?

When looking at Micr0 scans, I think some of the engines or parts are 1 m wide (?).

Re: David scanned by David - work in progress

Posted: 25 Aug 2017, 14:47
by 3dxcan
Yes, my parts are mostly long and the width is much smaller than lenght.
Do you align your scans using contact pair or manual sequence?
I can only get usable results if i do contact pair.

Re: David scanned by David - work in progress

Posted: 25 Aug 2017, 17:55
by 3dxcan
you can see the dimensions here, scanned using sphere markers, then removed in post-prosessing.
n.jpg

Re: David scanned by David - work in progress

Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 14:02
by Micr0
Curiousjeff wrote: 25 Aug 2017, 12:34 @ Micr0,


Nevertheless, I cannot recommend the PointGrey because of the lack of dual camera possibility using Directshow.

Using the SDK, it probably would be possible, but I will be better off selling one camera and buying the Imaging Source camera with the same chip.

I am putting that on hold until better times $$$.

Jeff
Before you sell the PointGrey cameras see if you can get a copy of FlexScan3D to try. It doesn't support IS cameras but does support the PointGrey

Re: David scanned by David - work in progress

Posted: 29 Aug 2017, 02:26
by 3dscanner
hi Curiousjeff!!!
i need your help for using the point grey camera.i have got some point grey camera like :fl2,fl3,graschopper.I've been tried with all David software like david3,david4,david5..but all of them can not detect the point grey camera.
could you please help me to resolve that problem!
i did as Sven's instructed from David forum but still can not detect point grey camera.
"That's strange. Please post your camera log file:
1. Go to your DAVID folder, subfolder "logs"
2. Delete your "CameraLogfile.txt"
3. Start DAVID and try to connect to the camera
4. Close DAVID
5. Attach or post your "CameraLogfile.txt" here"

thank and waitting for your help soon!

Re: David scanned by David - work in progress

Posted: 30 Aug 2017, 21:00
by Curiousjeff
Hi,

You must in install the FULL Flycapture SDK (download from Point grey).

During installation, you must select "complete"

Then select at one point "directshow driver".

Once the installation is finished, you should see the PG camera within David.

Because of the weak implementation of the Directshow driver, once in David, you must select another camera (David 4) or select OFF (David 5) and open flycapture to make the adjustments to the camera. Then close Flycapture and start camera within David.

From Flycapture, you can save the settings in the camera memory

Jeff

Re: David scanned by David - work in progress

Posted: 31 Aug 2017, 01:49
by 3dscanner
Thank for your help!
i'll try to download the Flycapture SDK and do as you guide.
i'll let you know the result.
best wish to you!

Re: David scanned by David - work in progress

Posted: 03 Sep 2017, 07:53
by 3dxcan
going to through your first post again, 34 scans for a rather small statue is too many i believe, of course you set the quality check at 0.6 which is higher than normal and ignores much of the scanned data in hope of a higher quality scan.
did you have time to scan a larger object? I'd try my luck with Flexscan as you have pt-grey camera and it can detect targets to use as auto alignment helpers. that significantly shortens alignment time.

Re: David scanned by David - work in progress

Posted: 03 Sep 2017, 12:06
by Curiousjeff
Since I used a small calibration panel, I scanned legs, torso and head separately. Plus a few scans from above and below.

Each scan is less than 4 seconds + processing time = approx 15 minutes for the 34 scans.

I don't find that 34 is a lot. It's normal.

With Walther's turntable, it is quick. And alignment is usually fast. In this case, there were no problems.

I have not tried anything large for the moment.

Re: David scanned by David - work in progress

Posted: 03 Sep 2017, 19:25
by 3dxcan
Curiousjeff wrote: 25 Aug 2017, 12:34 @ Micr0,

Sorry, I didn't see your last question previously.

Yes, that's correct.

I set the FPS to 59.846
The shutter to: 15.10ms

The PointGrey software has an "absolute mode" for the input which is 1 by 1 incremental.

I set FPS to 60, then switch to absolute mode and fine tune until the least glowing effect.
I turn off absolute mode, set shutter to 15 ms, return to absolute mode and fine tune.

Finally, all is saved in the camera memory.

The only thing I need to adjust every time I start David is YUY2 with RAW8, for some reason, this increases the fps grab rate (?).

Nevertheless, I cannot recommend the PointGrey because of the lack of dual camera possibility using Directshow.

Using the SDK, it probably would be possible, but I will be better off selling one camera and buying the Imaging Source camera with the same chip.

I am putting that on hold until better times $$$.

Jeff
For imaging source cameras, shutter speed(exposure) is controllable in david and can't be "fine tuned". It only swtches between preset values. Also the fps, cannot be fine tuned.
Correct me if I'm wrong.